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    new 180F/85 thermostat

    Hey fellas, how is it going? D Day approching.....

    I've decided to purchase an 180F thermostat. My old on is still OK (just 3 years or so) but it still keeps my temp of the engine a little too high at idle and after off road, like 205F. So i'm wating for the new one, it's a Stant 48718 XACTStat 180F.
    Will also flush the engine cooler and , with my brand new cooler installed few weeks ago, hope the rig runs at stays at 180F / 85-90

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    Re: new 180F/85 thermostat

    Unless you reprogram the ECM or PCM (depending on year), the 180 thermostat will do nothing. The computer will try to do everything it can to reach the predetermined running temp set up from the factory.
    The ECM or PCM (depending on year) will keep dumping fuel and retarding the timing in order to reach the set temp parameter which is well above the 180 degrees (200+ I believe).
    It's all emissions stuff. Hotter engines run cleaner but wear and tear is greater.
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    Re: new 180F/85 thermostat

    Thanks MU, well i've installed new PCM years ago from PCM of NY, reprogrammed for better power+torque. Don't know if that matters time will give us the answer. My thermostat has arrived at UK parcels (coming from BOSTON NY) and will be out tomorrow to France. Hope i'll get it till this weedend, if not i'm on holidays next week .

    Hey and have a nice remembrance day tomorrow all France and Luxembourg will of course do military parade, can't go i'm on duty

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    Re: new 180F/85 thermostat

    New thermostat installed and all seems fine. Drove more than 60 miles , highway and town mixed, temp stable around 185.

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    Re: new 180F/85 thermostat

    Glad to hear it! I started running a 180 thermostat 2 years ago with no problems or ck engine light. Temps here vary from -2C {28F} to 47C {117F}. My temp runs around 185F year round.

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    Re: new 180F/85 thermostat

    Here we are around -10C to +33C, let's see how it's gonna make it. This summer should be hot!

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    Re: new 180F/85 thermostat

    But first, today I tried another mix, first drove about 100 km highway, then i made a 35 km off road trip. Then i return home by taking normal roads, driving 50, 70 an 90 km/h. Arrived home i let the engine turn at idle about 20 minutes. During the trip i connected my OBD reader and watched temp on dashboard. It stays at 92C and the temp on dash did move, just a littlelittlelittlelittle above the middle. At home, after running 20 min at idle the temp goes to 95 then back. No error codes, no lights on and engine is running well.

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    Re: new 180F/85 thermostat

    Sounds like you have a winner! I run a little cooler, but I have a 3 row aluminum radiator, a severe duty fan clutch, and a thermostat mod (moved it to the upper hose).

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    Re: new 180F/85 thermostat

    Gonna do a 3 days trip with my wife and drive about 620 km. Think that will be last test for it.

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    Re: new 180F/85 thermostat

    My thermostat did the job and did it well, eaven with the stop and go during the trip

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    Re: new 180F/85 thermostat

    But at what cost, Fuel, detonation, engine life?
    Without adjusting the parameters of the ECM, the ECM will keep changing the timing, add more fuel, etc. to reach its optimum operating temperature set by the manufacturer.
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    Re: new 180F/85 thermostat

    Well i did almost 520km with one full gastank and the temperature was fine, drove most of time 110-120 km/h, we had stop and go, two times, like 10 miles i think.
    I just see that my engine runs fine, temperature stays around 93-100 max eaven in stop and go trafic, and my milage with one full gastank was good to.... so for me, no problems
    changed the PCM years ago for the new one from PCM NY, does this mabe change things?

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    Re: new 180F/85 thermostat

    Not really... Unless you state your tstat change the open/closed loop temp parameter will stay stock meaning the pcm will stay in dumb mode until you hit that temp before it starts looking at feedback from the sensors.
    Since your running 93-100 you are already above the temp range that the stock 195* (90 c) tstat achieves, meaning that your not running any cooler than a stock vehicle so no need to program the truck for a cooler setting. If you were running 85 then that warrants a program but in general max power is around the 90 celsius and mileage around 100.

    For comparison, I ran a 160* tstat (71 C) and I would see 165* (73C) on the highway in our winter but once I stop at a light temps would climb all the way to 200* (93C). I ended swapping it out to a 187* tstat and I still idle at 200* but hit 187* on the highway (better fuel economy)

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    Re: new 180F/85 thermostat

    Ok thanks bro, i will see in future, if no issues appears for me it runs fine like it does now, engine get his temp fast so ..... we will see

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